[Donna]

And don't forget Nick that involved people in the "security and privacy" community will not only report but stand-up against the bad practices by any vendors. Not only against malware, spyware makers but to vendors who distributes spyware and have association to companies with spyware business

[Charlie]

Smart move might be to block all sites using Comodo certs until Melih grows up and starts caring about the users and not abusers and his pocketbook

[mvdu]

Any new follow up by Comodo? Or are things the same?

[Data]

A quick search reveals that the accusations continue to fly:
https://forums.comodo.com/feedbackcommentsa...l-t40144.0.html

And good advice is still available to the prospective Comodo user:
http://www.sofotex.com/cgi-bin/ls/reviews....=40877&nh=2


It's a case of entering the correct search phrase:
http://www.google.co...o+untrustworthy

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Some of these flamers are likely from that nasty group [at] CoU and DSLR/BBR who have ganged together like gossip mongers spreading false information in a smear campaign.

This post has been edited by Data: 15 June 2009 - 09:36 PM

[mvdu]

Data, on Jun 15 2009, 09:07 PM, said:

A quick search reveals that the accusations continue to fly:
https://forums.comodo.com/feedbackcommentsa...l-t40144.0.html

And good advice is still available to the prospective Comodo user:
http://www.sofotex.com/cgi-bin/ls/reviews....=40877&nh=2


It's a case of entering the correct search phrase:
http://www.google.co...o+untrustworthy

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Some of these flamers are likely from that nasty group [at] CoU and DSLR/BBR who have ganged together like gossip mongers spreading false information in a smear campaign.

Thanks! Even though Comodo firewall would fit my setup well, I still refuse to use it unless I see progress. Take a look at this post about the EULA in your second link (which I never liked) -

"Based on some of the positive comments on this page and others I just down loaded the Comodo firewall and started to install.
I guess your other contributors can't have ready the EULA but I did :
You can't comment on the product unless you get written permission from Comodo.

They collect information about you to enforce their rights including ("but ot limited to...") IP address, MAC address and e-mail address.

If you do get into a legal problem with a 3rd party which involves the product in some way, Comodo have the right to get involved, use any lawyer they choose , and send you the bill...

I stopped reading there but it probably gets worse. This has to be the most obnoxious EULA ever, and since they feel they need it their products must suck badly.

Would anyone even consider any anti-spyware from this vendor ?"

This post has been edited by mvdu: 15 June 2009 - 09:52 PM

[Data]

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You can't comment on the product unless you get written permission from Comodo.

That EULA can't stick, 'cos if it did, the Comodo forum would be short on user posts. The feedback sections alone would be a breach of the EULA. It's scare tactics.

I tried several Comodo products early on, but none of them ever worked as described, busted my system, or were not to my liking. So no, I wouldn't use again.

This post has been edited by Data: 15 June 2009 - 10:07 PM

[mvdu]

Data, on Jun 15 2009, 10:06 PM, said:

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You can't comment on the product unless you get written permission from Comodo.

That EULA can't stick, 'cos if it did, the Comodo forum would be short on user posts. The feedback sections alone would be a breach of the EULA. It's scare tactics.

I tried several Comodo products early on, but none of them ever worked as described, busted my system, or were not to my liking. So no, I wouldn't use again.

Yes, I agree - that can't mean for normal message board commenting. However, I do see overly broad references to using personal data in the EULA, and other weird stuff.

Comodo works pretty well on my machine, but wouldn't others agree with me that it isn't trustworthy enough to use?

This post has been edited by mvdu: 15 June 2009 - 10:15 PM

[Data]

mvdu, on Jun 15 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

that can't mean for normal message board commenting.

It must, if what you said is stated in the EULA. Otherwise the agreement is useless and none enforceable. I will accept a EULA that gives the providing party no power whatsoever, any day of the week.

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Would anyone even consider any anti-spyware from this vendor
wouldn't others agree with me that it isn't trustworthy enough to use?

Seems you're waiting for a particular answer/ person to arrive?

[Donna]

Comodo works well on my test machine also, mvdu. I like their firewall and I actually use it last time when Outpost is not fully Vista compatible yet. In fact, not I only I did like it but last year...I also apply as one of their affiliate (that will try to sell their service). When the application was approved, they let CoU site to co-brand with Comodo Firewall Pro and I still have the said executable:

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I did not continue to offer or promote this co-branded application because of the Ask/IAC partnership that occured after they offered to any website owners who want to promote Comodo thru affilaite program.

If CoU is nasty like some people think, I will not use, like and recommend their software before. And I will not even apply to be one of their affiliates. Good thing I did not go ahead and good thing I did not even release these executables to public.

Anyway, people will simply say that CoU or other forums that name a product as something not to trust as "flamers". They can say what they want to say but there's no "single" person only or "one" forum only and "one" tech sites that is against with the method of pushing unwanted toolbar or upset with partnership by security software to company that is known to have spyware business.

Go to eWeek, Washington Post, Tech Herald or any other review sites. Most of them will said the same something: "Odd that a security software bundles with such toolbar", "Enough of Toolbars already!", "Bundling a security software with toolbar from "suspect" company" etc.

If CoU and other forums are flamers.. do they call these technology sites as flamers too? I doubt they will

Some people had issue with their products. Some don't. I did not and don't except the fact, I don't like it now because of what has been (over)discussed here

Bottom Line: CoU will continue to not to post updates information on security software of products with Ask Toolbar/Ask Search that was created to mislead end-users.

[mvdu]

Data, on Jun 15 2009, 11:45 PM, said:

mvdu, on Jun 15 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

that can't mean for normal message board commenting.

It must, if what you said is stated in the EULA. Otherwise the agreement is useless and none enforceable. I will accept a EULA that gives the providing party no power whatsoever, any day of the week.

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Would anyone even consider any anti-spyware from this vendor
wouldn't others agree with me that it isn't trustworthy enough to use?

Seems you're waiting for a particular answer/ person to arrive?

The quote above wasn't mine - it was from the second link you posted. Not waiting for a particular person/response, but any feedback on the whole certificates thing and others making Comodo untrustworthy is welcome.

This post has been edited by mvdu: 16 June 2009 - 12:13 AM

[mvdu]

Donna, on Jun 16 2009, 12:11 AM, said:

Comodo works well on my test machine also, mvdu. I like their firewall and I actually use it last time when Outpost is not fully Vista compatible yet. In fact, not I only I did like it but last year...I also apply as one of their affiliate (that will try to sell their service). When the application was approved, they let CoU site to co-brand with Comodo Firewall Pro and I still have the said executable:
6_16_200...51_27_AM.png
'
I did not continue to offer or promote this co-branded application because of the Ask/IAC partnership that occured after they offered to any website owners who want to promote Comodo thru affilaite program.

If CoU is nasty like some people think, I will not use, like and recommend their software before. And I will not even apply to be one of their affiliates. Good thing I did not go ahead and good thing I did not even release these executables to public.

Anyway, people will simply say that CoU or other forums that name a product as something not to trust as "flamers". They can say what they want to say but there's no "single" person only or "one" forum only and "one" tech sites that is against with the method of pushing unwanted toolbar or upset with partnership by security software to company that is known to have spyware business.

Go to eWeek, Washington Post, Tech Herald or any other review sites. Most of them will said the same something: "Odd that a security software bundles with such toolbar", "Enough of Toolbars already!", "Bundling a security software with toolbar from "suspect" company" etc.

If CoU and other forums are flamers.. do they call these technology sites as flamers too? I doubt they will

Some people had issue with their products. Some don't. I did not and don't except the fact, I don't like it now because of what has been (over)discussed here

Bottom Line: CoU will continue to not to post updates information on security software of products with Ask Toolbar/Ask Search that was created to mislead end-users.

Hi, Donna - your philosophy is a big reason I post here. You also help to create a friendly atmosphere. It's not that Comodo is a bad product (except the AV part is still buggy IMO,) but there are other alternatives I'm more comfortable with.

[Donna]

And we thank everyone and you for being here

All I can say to Melih's response to the member who said that we are flamers is:
When MVP Eric Howes published his Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products/Programs research, many "known and unknown" vendors are not happy. So it's normal also to see him (Melih) and Comodo to not to be happy It's them who put this stuff on their yard and now the stuff smells... who to blame? The people who smell the stuff or them who planted the stuff?

[hayc59]

mvdu, If I could shed some light for you....
If you can get past the terrible things that Comodo firewall is into
and will continue to do so because of the money and Melih's
need for attention[ie...look at his ego driven videos on u-tube]
then remove Outpost or OA whch ever one you have spinning on your dial
install Comodo dont look back...send Melih a few dollars to continue to
grease his ego!!
I on the other hand love the firewall I have installed and will never suspect
Mikhail of any dirty deeds
thats that with that
G

[mvdu]

hayc59, on Jun 16 2009, 01:41 AM, said:

mvdu, If I could shed some light for you....
If you can get past the terrible things that Comodo firewall is into
and will continue to do so because of the money and Melih's
need for attention[ie...look at his ego driven videos on u-tube]
then remove Outpost or OA whch ever one you have spinning on your dial
install Comodo dont look back...send Melih a few dollars to continue to
grease his ego!!
I on the other hand love the firewall I have installed and will never suspect
Mikhail of any dirty deeds
thats that with that
G

Hi, hayc - I'm still with Outpost and intend to be until OA comes out with a firewall for 64-bit to compare with. My principles won't let me use Comodo.

This post has been edited by mvdu: 16 June 2009 - 03:51 AM

[Charlie]

Who can trust Mehil or his products any longer, not I. If money is the motive behind his issuing certs to malware sites, then how can I ever trust that he would fix it so other much worst thing could wiggle past his security suite. Nope the whole Comodo group is now on my untrust list and I' never return

[Basil]

Charlie, on Jun 16 2009, 05:52 PM, said:

the whole Comodo group is now on my untrust list and I' never return

DITTO Here!!....

[joe53]

It was with some regret that I finally uninstalled Comodo Internet Security. I had used Comodo Firewalls for some years now with absolutely no problems, and I was comfortable with the latest version. It gave me no grief whatsoever.

But I cannot ignore the shenanigans by Comodo:
- the default installation of the questionable ASK toolbar
- the killing off of BOClean
- the certs controversy

I cannot justify using a product from a vendor I no longer trust.

I had hoped to install Online Armor's professional firewall, (recently offered for free) but it did not work out. I never did receive the key Tall Emu promised. So for now, I'm going with Agnitum's Outpost free firewall.

[Donna]

Hope there's a way for you to get your free license of OA so you can enjoy (for 1 year) the other features of OA. I understand Gordon worked on this before and he might be able to help again by checking with Mike Nash. Or PM me the email address you gave them and I'll be happy to check with Mike also.

Yes, give Outpost free a try. It's limited feature though but it works with NOD32 over here (I understand you have NOD32 antivirus also).

[hayc59]

Talking with Mike now will let you you know

[hayc59]

joe53, on Jun 16 2009, 02:24 PM, said:

It was with some regret that I finally uninstalled Comodo Internet Security. I had used Comodo Firewalls for some years now with absolutely no problems, and I was comfortable with the latest version. It gave me no grief whatsoever.

But I cannot ignore the shenanigans by Comodo:
- the default installation of the questionable ASK toolbar
- the killing off of BOClean
- the certs controversy

I cannot justify using a product from a vendor I no longer trust.

I had hoped to install Online Armor's professional firewall, (recently offered for free) but it did not work out. I never did receive the key Tall Emu promised. So for now, I'm going with Agnitum's Outpost free firewall.

Ok here is all you do Joe....from Mike the man himself
Contact Info
with the e-mail you used and your done back on track!!
thanks Mike!!!
http://www.tallemu.com/contact_us.html